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Post by Soriphen Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:11 pm

Some hate him, some love him; however, he does have something to say and I think it's quite beneficial if you guys at least take a look at some of his articles.

http://www.sirlin.net/article-archive/

I recommend reading the "Playing to win", "Yomi" and "Writing Well" articles. Some really insightful stuff there.
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Post by THTB Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:11 am

While it is his views, his article on Playing To Win pretty much describes the thoughts of countless legends in competitive gaming, including Daigo Umehara, Justin Wong, Alex Valle, Graham Wolfe, Pyrolee, EWAShock, Lex, and so on.
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Post by Thalès76 Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:21 am

Great i'm gonna read that article on Ryu, my favorite character in SF4 lol.

So i'm reading playing to win, he's basically saying there's no such thing as (Cheap), you simply play to win.
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Post by Soriphen Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:29 pm

Lol, I remember reading that article 3 years ago. I had such big discussions with friends of mine about it and whether it made sense or not. Good stuff, though, try not to be heavily influenced by it. I mean...for example, I play to win, however, I am lenient in some cases; such as when someone sucks, I'll ask if they want me to go easier on them. Also, don't forget that games are made to have fun ;P. Basically, you only play to win when you need to, such as when you want to get better...other than that, have fun.
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Post by Bond Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:09 am

I read the playing to win article ages ago and I agreed with most points made, though the one that I disagreed with was where he describes a hypothetical situation where if someone 'playing to win' was playing in an arcade and a little girl came up and versed him, he should still play to his limit.

This makes sense to me on a certain level, where if he lowered his level it might let a bad habit or too creep in.

But on the other hand, playing to win against a mismatched opponent is just as pointless. How can you possibly hope to improve or even maintain that level when playing a much worse opponent?

If you were completely serious about keeping your level of play so high, you should not even verse the mismatched player.
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Post by Soriphen Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:19 am

Bond wrote:I read the playing to win article ages ago and I agreed with most points made, though the one that I disagreed with was where he describes a hypothetical situation where if someone 'playing to win' was playing in an arcade and a little girl came up and versed him, he should still play to his limit.

This makes sense to me on a certain level, where if he lowered his level it might let a bad habit or too creep in.

But on the other hand, playing to win against a mismatched opponent is just as pointless. How can you possibly hope to improve or even maintain that level when playing a much worse opponent?

If you were completely serious about keeping your level of play so high, you should not even verse the mismatched player.

Exactly what I think as well! Ya preached to the choir, Bond!
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Post by Dizlord Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:03 pm

Seriously, Sirlin is a idiot, nothing more, nothing less. Read his stuff, it leaves no room to play but to think he's an idiot.
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Post by TrollCapAmerica Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:25 pm

Sirlins got the right idea I see nothing wrong with what hes saying and its basically just unwritten rules of fighting game communities suddenly being written down.I MAY ease up on a 10 year old girl some but im not gonna lose and id MUCH prefer to show what can be done and give her something to work towards if she wants to keep playing.If the 10 year old doesnt care then it honestly mater if i destroy her or throw the match
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Post by Bond Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:27 am

Soriphen wrote:
Bond wrote:I read the playing to win article ages ago and I agreed with most points made, though the one that I disagreed with was where he describes a hypothetical situation where if someone 'playing to win' was playing in an arcade and a little girl came up and versed him, he should still play to his limit.

This makes sense to me on a certain level, where if he lowered his level it might let a bad habit or too creep in.

But on the other hand, playing to win against a mismatched opponent is just as pointless. How can you possibly hope to improve or even maintain that level when playing a much worse opponent?

If you were completely serious about keeping your level of play so high, you should not even verse the mismatched player.

Exactly what I think as well! Ya preached to the choir, Bond!

I have been referred to as the Yoda of my generation
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Post by Heromaster111 Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:09 am

TrollCapAmerica wrote:Sirlins got the right idea I see nothing wrong with what hes saying and its basically just unwritten rules of fighting game communities suddenly being written down.I MAY ease up on a 10 year old girl some but im not gonna lose and id MUCH prefer to show what can be done and give her something to work towards if she wants to keep playing.If the 10 year old doesnt care then it honestly mater if i destroy her or throw the match

Cap really man bad thoughts bad thoughts. But am fuckin' rollin'
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Post by Soriphen Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:25 pm

LMAO hahaha, I wonder how he'll destroy the 10 year old ;P.
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