Tier List Discussion

SB is allright but the backdash problem is stupid.Trying to fix something [Infinites] that wasent broke is what tends to break things in the first place.The overall mechanics arent bad beyond that but the damage is a little high with a 3 bar average.Sori also found a way to scoop people off the ground with certain chains into a jugglethat can be comboed off of even if they try and backdash.The Cons are that like 4 guys can do it the pros are that none of them are Piccalo.This probably rapes the hell out of the tier list

B3 runs out of unique and interesting character abilities in the middle of the second tier most of the chaarcters are complete shit with no combos and Neutral P or Anti-TCs are too much of a fail safe.I styill think its playable but its 1/4th the game IW is

Either way we can all point together at BL and laugh

Please elaborate on the back dash thing. How is it done, and who can do it? Oh and yeah BL does suck major balls.

Basically, hitting an opponent while they backdash leaves them in a low juggle state. The only thing to stop it is with ki blasts, but IIRC only a handful of characters can juggle from a ki blast launch, and even then it's fairly strict.

And BL...lol. That game is a wonderfuck of shit.

I assume Gogeta and Cell can do this? On the topic of BL, this site should have a day of the year were it is required to insult BL in some way shape or form. It would be alot of fun and would really get the community posting.

you know, for hating BL so much, you guys sure do talk about it quite often. The funny thing is you guys just repeat the exact same thing. If your going to insult it (which i don't care if you do) don't you think you could maybe, idk think of something new to say? Spice it up a bit? i'd love to hear new insults over your recycled crap. so c'mon guys put your noggins together and say something clever. you can do it. I believe in you guys!

lol What else can you call crap but crap? But seriously, I'm not willing to argue with you over differing opinions, I've seen what that has done to this site. To each his own, don't you agree?

devilmaggot666 wrote:you know, for hating BL so much, you guys sure do talk about it quite often. The funny thing is you guys just repeat the exact same thing. If your going to insult it (which i don't care if you do) don't you think you could maybe, idk think of something new to say? Spice it up a bit? i'd love to hear new insults over your recycled crap. so c'mon guys put your noggins together and say something clever. you can do it. I believe in you guys!

K.

BL is a wondershit of fuck.

Guys....when shooting a ki ball against someone back dashing...it puts them in regular juggle state you know...>_> Not low. First off, I tried the backdash problem...wtf it isn't even a problem. I played against Gogeta and he did it all the time and I caught him off guard with it cause it's so easy to counter...he ended up not using it at all. Ask Gogeta yourself that it's easy to counter.

Holy crap...just think of it like this...if the opponent back dashes, you shoot a ki ball, they go in regular juggle state and then you could dash in and either do a >S from far AND it works, or you could start a juggle with >R for some characters. I can't believe this is still thought of as a problem...There are loads of solutions with this and it actually is bad for the opponent to back dash cause it sets them up for easy tech traps. Shit, I guess I'm REALLY gonna have to get it going with that tutorial vid to show you guys how useless it is.

Soriphen wrote: I guess I'm REALLY gonna have to get it going with that tutorial vid to show you guys how useless it is.

Remember not all of us have the game and are basically depending on you for the info

devilmaggot666 wrote:you know, for hating BL so much, you guys sure
do talk about it quite often. The funny thing is you guys just repeat
the exact same thing. If your going to insult it (which i don't care if
you do) don't you think you could maybe, idk think of something new to
say? Spice it up a bit? i'd love to hear new insults over your recycled
crap. so c'mon guys put your noggins together and say something clever.
you can do it. I believe in you guys!

What more has to be said expect "its an unplayable game with shit design thats only played by idiots that cant play fighting games but can sit around for 3 hours until they make a combo vid that doesnt show them failing 80 times trying to make a gimmick combo that never works when they play that fucking shitwinkie of a game.Its the retarded little brother of what had always been a great franchise and its existance killed the game and by extension this site"

What you want New insults with that massive dissapointment.and yes the only reasons we talk about it at all is because it was such a massive letdown it killed the series AND is only talked about by obnoxious assholes douchebags with a chip on their shoulder who refuse to admit that sucks porn star penis

Now GTFO

LMAO! Cap, that is really harsh! BL at least has decent graphics and cutscenes...

ViewtifulBrohan wrote:LMAO! Cap, that is really harsh! BL at least has decent graphics and cutscenes...

Well you know I once had dreams of going head to head with Gogeta Nnamz and Dizlord daily in a good Budokai game and now the series is likely ended with a PS2 last gen game that while better than all others is basically played by like 6 people.Sorry if it sounds harsh but ive invested over half a decade in this community and seeing that go down the tubes is pretty painful

Anyways Sori.Do that vid.We waited 3 months for Gogetas IW vid where he just played B3 Goku for 20 minutes we can wait for yours too

LOL kk will do cap .

haha you make me laugh cap. if it's sucha massive let down then ignore it! block it from your mind completey. its honestly not that hard.

Soriphen wrote:Guys....when shooting a ki ball against someone back dashing...it puts them in regular juggle state you know...>_> Not low. First off, I tried the backdash problem...wtf it isn't even a problem. I played against Gogeta and he did it all the time and I caught him off guard with it cause it's so easy to counter...he ended up not using it at all. Ask Gogeta yourself that it's easy to counter.

Holy crap...just think of it like this...if the opponent back dashes, you shoot a ki ball, they go in regular juggle state and then you could dash in and either do a >S from far AND it works, or you could start a juggle with >R for some characters. I can't believe this is still thought of as a problem...There are loads of solutions with this and it actually is bad for the opponent to back dash cause it sets them up for easy tech traps. Shit, I guess I'm REALLY gonna have to get it going with that tutorial vid to show you guys how useless it is.

I knew that it put your opponents in a normal juggle state...I just had no idea who could juggle from it.

TrollCapAmerica wrote:

What more has to be said expect "its an unplayable game with shit design thats only played by idiots that cant play fighting games but can sit around for 3 hours until they make a combo vid that doesnt show them failing 80 times trying to make a gimmick combo that never works when they play that fucking shitwinkie of a game.Its the retarded little brother of what had always been a great franchise and its existance killed the game and by extension this site"



Now GTFO

Fucking right on man

devilmaggot666 wrote:haha you make me laugh cap. if it's sucha massive let down then ignore it! block it from your mind completey. its honestly not that hard.

or we could not have a section for that shitty game on here at all since its compete crap and closer to a BT than one of the competitive budokai games.How about we compromise and your the one that shuts up about the shitty game

and going "haha" like you werent put in your place doesnt make you seem witty

if you read me comment earlier you would have noticed i said i didn't care if you insult it. so i wasnt put in my place at all. if you feel the section needs to go then so be it, delete it, i could care less. And not talking about is fine. i didnt bring that topic up in the first place

TrollCapAmerica wrote:Its the retarded little brother of what had always been a great franchise and its existance killed the game and by extension this site

Cap the budokai series pre-BL, which this is referring to, is not what I would call a "great" franchise....1 awful game, 1 decent game, and 1 good game does not a great franchise make. I'd go with admirable but not great.

And where is my fuckin' name, I mean fuck cap Diz don't come here no more....bastard.

Lol alright guys, no more fighting. HFIL is \/\/\/\/\/\/ that way.

It's not a fight when one side is clearly winning(me) against the other(the rest)

gg.

Heromaster111 wrote:

TrollCapAmerica wrote:Its the retarded little brother of what had always been a great franchise and its existance killed the game and by extension this site

Cap the budokai series pre-BL, which this is referring to, is not what I would call a "great" franchise....1 awful game, 1 decent game, and 1 good game does not a great franchise make. I'd go with admirable but not great.

And where is my fuckin' name, I mean fuck cap Diz don't come here no more....bastard.

Arguing Semantics hero?Come on whats next the definition of "Is"

Even before considering Budokai 1 was better than it ever had to be for a measure of success and B2 was the best DBZ fighting game ever made before being left in the dust by 4 of the next 5 games in the series/Few series make 4 good games at all and still get blow by everyone else as great

Are you implying that Budokai 1 isn't complete shit? lolwut

Heromaster111 wrote:Are you implying that Budokai 1 isn't complete shit? lolwut

It was shit

It was also far and away the best DBZ Fighting game up until that point

Which actually..........is kinda sad/So very very sad

That still doesn't make it the Budokai series pre-BL good.